Should we obey governments that are bad? Robert Jeffress says Yes

 Jeffress: God gives Trump authority to take out Kim
Robert Jeffress

Dallas pastor Robert Jeffress, one of President Donald Trump’s evangelical advisers, released a statement Tuesday saying the president has the moral authority to “take out” North Korean leader Kim Jong Un. “When it comes to how we should deal with evildoers, the Bible, in the book of Romans, is very clear: God has endowed rulers full power to use whatever means necessary — including war — to stop evil,” Jeffress said. “In the case of North Korea, God has given Trump authority to take out Kim Jong Un.” Jeffress said in a phone interview that he was prompted to make the statement after Trump said that if North Korea’s threats to the United States continue, Pyongyang will be “met with fire and fury like the world has never seen.” The biblical passage Romans 13 gives the government authority to deal with evildoers, Jeffress said. “That gives the government the authority to do whatever, whether it’s assassination, capital punishment or evil punishment to quell the actions of evildoers like Kim Jong Un,” he said. Jeffress knows his comments on North Korea could be considered controversial, even among fellow evangelicals. “Some Christians, perhaps younger Christians, have to think this through,” he said. “It’s antithetical to some of the mushy rhetoric you hear from some circles today. Frankly, it’s because they are not well taught in the scriptures.”                                        From Dallas Morning News 8/9/17  by SARAH PULLIAM BAILEY, THE WASHINGTON POST

Is Jeffress right? Are we obligated to follow Hitler or Stalin or Putin?

Should we obey governments that are bad?
Matt Slick

Romans 13:1 says, “Let every person be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God.” If this is so, what about the bad governments like the Nazis or the Communist regimes where they killed millions?  If God is the one who sets up governments, are we supposed to obey those bad governments? The answer is no. We are to obey governments unless they violate Scripture.  Acts 5:29 says, “We must obey God rather than men.” Whenever a government violates biblical teaching, Christians are obligated to disobey that government.  For example, if a government were to declare that we should kill all Asians, or immigrants, or people with Down’s syndrome, we should disobey.  Governments are run by people and often become corrupt.  Furthermore, the Bible never tells us to obey governments in contradiction to the revealed word of God. In the Old Testament, God sent the Israelites to destroy different nations.  Technically speaking, we could say that God set up those various governmental systems that he told the Israelites to destroy.  But when systems become ungodly and anti-Christian, they are no longer properly representing God and should not be obeyed. Are we seeing a conflict or a contradiction?  Not at all.   Let’s take, for example, Exodus 20, where we see two commandments: obey your parents and do not murder.  We can see that our parents are the authorities above us, even as governments are, and we should obey them.  But, what should we do it our parents tell us to murder someone? Should we obey?  Of course not.  Obedience to our parents is only proper when it’s consistent with the rest of the Scriptures.  Likewise, submission to the governmental systems is only proper when it is consistent with Scripture. Finally, let’s look at Rom. 13:6-7, “For because of this you also pay taxes, for rulers are servants of God, devoting themselves to this very thing. 7 Render to all what is due them: tax to whom tax is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honor to whom honor.”Notice that Paul says that the rulers are servants of God.  This is the context of the submission that is mentioned at the beginning of the chapter.  If these rulers are no longer servants of God, and if they contradict Scripture, they are not to be obeyed.

Matt Slick is the President and Founder of the Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry.

https://carm.org/questions/skeptics-ask/should-we-obey-governments-are-bad

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Retired physician, author, and nonprofit worker in Africa

One thought on “Should we obey governments that are bad? Robert Jeffress says Yes”

  1. much for the 9th Commandment, “Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.” Jeffress is a total and complete ignoramus who creates theology to suit his theology and lust for attention and power.

    Sent from my iPad Michael Sparkman, CPA Author/retired CPA & UCC Minister Santa Fe, NM

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